887 Visa - What's the update?

[Hope]

15 minutes ago, nudgee said:

can they even process one grant 

When did you apply? 

[nudgee]

39 minutes ago, Hope said:

When did you apply? 

May 2018  

[Hope]

16 minutes ago, nudgee said:

May 2018  

I applied in 1st week of July 2018 haven’t heard anything yet 

[adam]

38 minutes ago, Hope said:

I applied in 1st week of July 2018 haven’t heard anything yet 

I have applied on 11-5-18 and first contact was 10-6-19 and till now haven’t heard anything 

and on Sep-11 will be 16 months applying !

[Stellajane]

I've sent my email to SBS just now. 

I cannot urge you all enough to please do so too! 

jarni.blakkarly@sbs.com.au

Let him know that this is affecting you also.

[KC01]

Just now, Stellajane said:

I've sent my email to SBS just now. 

I cannot urge you all enough to please do so too! 

jarne.blakkarly@sbs.com.au

Let him know that this is affecting you also.

I will do it today. Everyone must email them. 

[Hope]

1 hour ago, adam said:

I have applied on 11-5-18 and first contact was 10-6-19 and till now haven’t heard anything 

and on Sep-11 will be 16 months applying !

When do you guys reckon they will open file for the first time?

Is it roughly 13-14 months time?

[wincivil]

3 minutes ago, Hope said:

When do you guys reckon they will open file for the first time?

Is it roughly 13-14 months time?

What date you applied in July 2018?? Not able to see your name in tracker

[adam]

13 minutes ago, Hope said:

When do you guys reckon they will open file for the first time?

Is it roughly 13-14 months time?

Yes

[TTTF]

The complaints/suggestions/ news articles needs to be more specific and may include some of these points  to address the issue in question.

Some points which can be included.

The basic point is not being questioned, on what is the law under migration act monitoring the services provided? and processing time of visa application is one of the aspect and how it can be transparent and fair in consideration of applicants.

An applicant would have applied 489 visa taking in account his total timeline to Permanent Residency.

Assume that 489 visas granted where from 2015 to 2017. Back then the processing time was 6 to 7 months. The points which needs to be raised are

Context:

1.     A 489 applicant who was granted a visa between years 2015 to 2017 where given the understanding based on the information available then on the DIBP website was if they are in compliance with 489 visa conditions their Permanent Residency would be processed in 6 to 7 months.

2.     Taking into account the processing time the applicant has applied 489 with view to be a permanent resident by complying with the visa conditions in the stipulated time frame

Current Situation:

1.     In last two years the processing time for the 887 has increased 3 folds, currently it is anywhere between 16 to 17 months as per the information available on the immigration website.

2.     An offshore application gets processed in 6 to 9 months which involves higher degree of due-diligence in comparison to an onshore application which is taking more than 15 months

3.     The entire situation seems to going one way with every passing day or month and it has only increased consistently without any explanation why such increase has been there?

4.     Applicants are expected to be in line with conditions at all times with severe ramifications for any breach

5.     Here we have a situation where processing times have increased 3 fold and only reason provided is number of applications has increased or administrative issues. Is this fair ?

6.     There is no transparency maintained in terms of what are the number of applications processed monthly and what is back log to be cleared to date and any associated estimates

7.     The service charter of immigration states that,

a.     be fair, open and reasonable in all that we do

b.    give you clear, accurate and timely information or help you to find it

c.     accountable – we are open and accountable to the Australian community under the law and within the framework of Ministerial responsibility

8.     The processing time cannot be termed as “reasonable” by a reasonable person considering the issues these applicants face in their day to day life.

9.    Most the applicants face undue discrimination in different walks of life such, Employment/Education/Housing/Financial Services/Utility services etc. Given the fact all such situations are difficult to be proved factually

10.  This is all in spite being in compliance with the all the conditions of the visa and supporting the regional economy of the country in all possible ways.

11.  All these applicants are put in situation of “Great Uncertainty” with no clear direction available

12.  Given the announcement  of new regional visa and related benefits for potential applicants it is definitely a positive move in the right direction, but let’s not be unfair to existing applicants by way of putting lengthy processing timelines

13.  The contact center and complaints team have been provided standard and general responses without much help

14.  The applicant is not allowed to deviate from the conditions applied to visa, but processing time has been increased without any consideration/explanation to the applicant. Somebody needs to be accountable here?

Reasonable Expectation?

1.     What is the law around visa processing timelines and why there is not a reasonable explanation provided rather than general statements?

2.     What can the applicant expect in line with immigration charter who is in a transition phase of this pathway process?

3.     The future of many applicants are at stake and how this can be addressed as a matter of priority?

4.     The processing time just cannot keep on increasing without any reasonable legitimate reasons.

[Stellajane]

@TTTF thank you for your contribution. It is very impressive the way you have worded this. Really much appreciated. I believe this is going to be very useful for a lot of people making complaints/suggestions or news articles regarding to this issue. Thanks!

[adam]

14 minutes ago, TTTF said:

The complaints/suggestions/ news articles needs to be more specific and may include some of these points  to address the issue in question.

Some points which can be included.

The basic point is not being questioned, on what is the law under migration act monitoring the services provided? and processing time of visa application is one of the aspect and how it can be transparent and fair in consideration of applicants.

An applicant would have applied 489 visa taking in account his total timeline to Permanent Residency.

Assume that 489 visas granted where from 2015 to 2017. Back then the processing time was 6 to 7 months. The points which needs to be raised are

Context:

1.     A 489 applicant who was granted a visa between years 2015 to 2017 where given the understanding based on the information available then on the DIBP website was if they are in compliance with 489 visa conditions their Permanent Residency would be processed in 6 to 7 months.

2.     Taking into account the processing time the applicant has applied 489 with view to be a permanent resident by complying with the visa conditions in the stipulated time frame

Current Situation:

1.     In last two years the processing time for the 887 has increased 3 folds, currently it is anywhere between 16 to 17 months as per the information available on the immigration website.

2.     An offshore application gets processed in 6 to 9 months which involves higher degree of due-diligence in comparison to an onshore application which is taking more than 15 months

3.     The entire situation seems to going one way with every passing day or month and it has only increased consistently without any explanation why such increase has been there?

4.     Applicants are expected to be in line with conditions at all times with severe ramifications for any breach

5.     Here we have a situation where processing times have increased 3 fold and only reason provided is number of applications has increased or administrative issues. Is this fair ?

6.     There is no transparency maintained in terms of what are the number of applications processed monthly and what is back log to be cleared to date and any associated estimates

7.     The service charter of immigration states that,

a.     be fair, open and reasonable in all that we do

b.    give you clear, accurate and timely information or help you to find it

c.     accountable – we are open and accountable to the Australian community under the law and within the framework of Ministerial responsibility

8.     The processing time cannot be termed as “reasonable” by a reasonable person considering the issues these applicants face in their day to day life.

9.    Most the applicants face undue discrimination in different walks of life such, Employment/Education/Housing/Financial Services/Utility services etc. Given the fact all such situations are difficult to be proved factually

10.  This is all in spite being in compliance with the all the conditions of the visa and supporting the regional economy of the country in all possible ways.

11.  All these applicants are put in situation of “Great Uncertainty” with no clear direction available

12.  Given the announcement  of new regional visa and related benefits for potential applicants it is definitely a positive move in the right direction, but let’s not be unfair to existing applicants by way of putting lengthy processing timelines

13.  The contact center and complaints team have been provided standard and general responses without much help

14.  The applicant is not allowed to deviate from the conditions applied to visa, but processing time has been increased without any consideration/explanation to the applicant. Somebody needs to be accountable here?

Reasonable Expectation?

1.     What is the law around visa processing timelines and why there is not a reasonable explanation provided rather than general statements?

2.     What can the applicant expect in line with immigration charter who is in a transition phase of this pathway process?

3.     The future of many applicants are at stake and how this can be addressed as a matter of priority?

4.     The processing time just cannot keep on increasing without any reasonable legitimate reasons.

WOW ! You are genius 

thats a lot of very important points 

[TTTF]

14 minutes ago, Stellajane said:

@TTTF thank you for your contribution. It is very impressive the way you have worded this. Really much appreciated. I believe this is going to be very useful for a lot of people making complaints/suggestions or news articles regarding to this issue. Thanks!

@StellajaneNo worries.. Idea is to assist and move forward. We need to raise the complaints more on facts and actual information, rather than as subjective circumstances.. since no transparency of processing time  is the basic issue. First we need to understand who is accountable here and changing it on what basis ? If  we have insights to this.. things will be straight forward.

 

[nudgee]

47 minutes ago, TTTF said:

The complaints/suggestions/ news articles needs to be more specific and may include some of these points  to address the issue in question.

Some points which can be included.

The basic point is not being questioned, on what is the law under migration act monitoring the services provided? and processing time of visa application is one of the aspect and how it can be transparent and fair in consideration of applicants.

An applicant would have applied 489 visa taking in account his total timeline to Permanent Residency.

Assume that 489 visas granted where from 2015 to 2017. Back then the processing time was 6 to 7 months. The points which needs to be raised are

Context:

1.     A 489 applicant who was granted a visa between years 2015 to 2017 where given the understanding based on the information available then on the DIBP website was if they are in compliance with 489 visa conditions their Permanent Residency would be processed in 6 to 7 months.

2.     Taking into account the processing time the applicant has applied 489 with view to be a permanent resident by complying with the visa conditions in the stipulated time frame

Current Situation:

1.     In last two years the processing time for the 887 has increased 3 folds, currently it is anywhere between 16 to 17 months as per the information available on the immigration website.

2.     An offshore application gets processed in 6 to 9 months which involves higher degree of due-diligence in comparison to an onshore application which is taking more than 15 months

3.     The entire situation seems to going one way with every passing day or month and it has only increased consistently without any explanation why such increase has been there?

4.     Applicants are expected to be in line with conditions at all times with severe ramifications for any breach

5.     Here we have a situation where processing times have increased 3 fold and only reason provided is number of applications has increased or administrative issues. Is this fair ?

6.     There is no transparency maintained in terms of what are the number of applications processed monthly and what is back log to be cleared to date and any associated estimates

7.     The service charter of immigration states that,

a.     be fair, open and reasonable in all that we do

b.    give you clear, accurate and timely information or help you to find it

c.     accountable – we are open and accountable to the Australian community under the law and within the framework of Ministerial responsibility

8.     The processing time cannot be termed as “reasonable” by a reasonable person considering the issues these applicants face in their day to day life.

9.    Most the applicants face undue discrimination in different walks of life such, Employment/Education/Housing/Financial Services/Utility services etc. Given the fact all such situations are difficult to be proved factually

10.  This is all in spite being in compliance with the all the conditions of the visa and supporting the regional economy of the country in all possible ways.

11.  All these applicants are put in situation of “Great Uncertainty” with no clear direction available

12.  Given the announcement  of new regional visa and related benefits for potential applicants it is definitely a positive move in the right direction, but let’s not be unfair to existing applicants by way of putting lengthy processing timelines

13.  The contact center and complaints team have been provided standard and general responses without much help

14.  The applicant is not allowed to deviate from the conditions applied to visa, but processing time has been increased without any consideration/explanation to the applicant. Somebody needs to be accountable here?

Reasonable Expectation?

1.     What is the law around visa processing timelines and why there is not a reasonable explanation provided rather than general statements?

2.     What can the applicant expect in line with immigration charter who is in a transition phase of this pathway process?

3.     The future of many applicants are at stake and how this can be addressed as a matter of priority?

4.     The processing time just cannot keep on increasing without any reasonable legitimate reasons.

you are legend, hopefully this get published 

[SINGH G]

After long wait we got our PR today 

applied 21/10/17

first contact.     March 2018  

2.                         March 2019

3.                          June    2019. Request AFP 

                               submitted in June 2019 

case officer   Sophorn 

i wish for everyone you will get your golden email soon 

Thanks for ur support 

BEST WISHES  TO EVERYONE 

 

 

[June]

3 minutes ago, SINGH G said:

After long wait we got our PR today 

applied 21/10/17

first contact.     March 2018  

2.                         March 2019

3.                          June    2019. Request AFP 

                               submitted in June 2019 

case officer   Sophorn 

i wish for everyone you will get your golden email soon 

Thanks for ur support 

BEST WISHES  TO EVERYONE 

 

 

Congratulations. Co is still working on 887 

[Russki]

21 hours ago, Delfin said:

Hey guys, I sent a complaint on saturday about Sophorn asking for an updated AFP even though I already renewed my AFP 2 months before my application was reviewed. I got the standard reply about processing times even though I was actually asking WHY am I being asked for document that I already submitted. Not when my application will be processed.

however, at the end of the reply it says:

“Your correspondence will be sent to the relevant processing area for information.”

do you think my complaint was forwarded to a Case Officer? If not, I really want to reply to the response email.

@Russki, when you submitted a complaint about ur AFP, did u get a reply? If yes, what kind of reply did you get? And how long did you wait after you submitted ur last complaint before u received ur grant?

thank you.

Hi @Delfin, well done for submitting a complaint!   I initially received the same reply, and I think they actually have forwarded it to COs. So I would suggest you wait for a few days first and see what happens.  

[Stellajane]

7 minutes ago, SINGH G said:

After long wait we got our PR today 

Best news of the day! Congratulations!

There is hope again for all of us! Whoohoo!

Enjoy!

[Russki]

9 minutes ago, SINGH G said:

After long wait we got our PR today 

applied 21/10/17

first contact.     March 2018  

Thanks for ur support 

BEST WISHES  TO EVERYONE 

Fantastic news!!!  Congratulations!!!!! 

[Honey]

35 minutes ago, SINGH G said:

After long wait we got our PR today 

applied 21/10/17

first contact.     March 2018  

2.                         March 2019

3.                          June    2019. Request AFP 

                               submitted in June 2019 

case officer   Sophorn 

i wish for everyone you will get your golden email soon 

Thanks for ur support 

BEST WISHES  TO EVERYONE 

 

 

Congratulations DEAR. 

[JayK]

1 hour ago, SINGH G said:

After long wait we got our PR today 

applied 21/10/17

first contact.     March 2018  

2.                         March 2019

3.                          June    2019. Request AFP 

                               submitted in June 2019 

case officer   Sophorn 

i wish for everyone you will get your golden email soon 

Thanks for ur support 

BEST WISHES  TO EVERYONE 

 

 

Congratulations! There's still light at the end of the tunnel 

[ricky21232]

1 hour ago, SINGH G said:

After long wait we got our PR today 

applied 21/10/17

first contact.     March 2018  

2.                         March 2019

3.                          June    2019. Request AFP 

                               submitted in June 2019 

case officer   Sophorn 

i wish for everyone you will get your golden email soon 

Thanks for ur support 

BEST WISHES  TO EVERYONE 

 

 

Congratulation Singh G !

I believe, Now I'm the only one left waiting since Sept 2017.  Please God...

Give me luck guys!!!

[Nomz]

14 minutes ago, ricky21232 said:

Congratulation Singh G !

I believe, Now I'm the only one left waiting since Sept 2017.  Please God...

Give me luck guys!!!

 

1 hour ago, SINGH G said:

After long wait we got our PR today 

applied 21/10/17

first contact.     March 2018  

2.                         March 2019

3.                          June    2019. Request AFP 

                               submitted in June 2019 

case officer   Sophorn 

i wish for everyone you will get your golden email soon 

Thanks for ur support 

BEST WISHES  TO EVERYONE 

 

 

Congratulations 

did you lodge complaint

[SINGH G]

43 minutes ago, Nomz said:

 

Congratulations 

did you lodge complaint

I did 3 times  after that they stop me. 

Last one I did in April 

[SINGH G]

1 hour ago, ricky21232 said:

Congratulation Singh G !

I believe, Now I'm the only one left waiting since Sept 2017.  Please God...

Give me luck guys!!!

Good luck